1 00:00:03,830 --> 00:00:01,490 I think exploration for inviting me to 2 00:00:06,980 --> 00:00:03,840 give this talk and thinking Daniel 3 00:00:09,169 --> 00:00:06,990 Sheehan and Dominic are the invitation 4 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:09,179 and the courtesy and the comfort of the 5 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:10,679 nice hotel 6 00:00:15,020 --> 00:00:12,960 basically I'm here to talk on behalf of 7 00:00:17,180 --> 00:00:15,030 my colleague mark Melissa and I are the 8 00:00:20,710 --> 00:00:17,190 co editors of the book that was 9 00:00:23,179 --> 00:00:20,720 published last February of 2009 the 10 00:00:25,820 --> 00:00:23,189 double-a presses bit frontiers of 11 00:00:29,810 --> 00:00:25,830 profession science and there's the book 12 00:00:32,209 --> 00:00:29,820 cover and the book was designed to be an 13 00:00:35,209 --> 00:00:32,219 academic monograph for the purpose of 14 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:35,219 reaching advanced undergraduate students 15 00:00:40,729 --> 00:00:38,340 graduate students faculty airspace and 16 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:40,739 physics professors who are interested in 17 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:44,340 exploring propulsion physics as well as 18 00:00:51,410 --> 00:00:47,430 that industry scientist we start with 19 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:51,420 our aspirations aspirations are always 20 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:53,129 provided by the wonderful science 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:55,129 fiction that we have in world literature 22 00:01:01,279 --> 00:00:58,890 that have inspired midnight motorists we 23 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:01,289 know long deceased and who've in spite 24 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:03,600 of the my generation and the other 25 00:01:09,770 --> 00:01:04,949 generations to come 26 00:01:12,020 --> 00:01:09,780 and basically before 1994 where Brad was 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:12,030 only a science fiction that since that 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:14,250 time that the advent of algae-based were 29 00:01:17,899 --> 00:01:15,930 broad metric theory that was published 30 00:01:21,679 --> 00:01:17,909 in classical quantum gravity the 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:21,689 principles have now been postulated here 32 00:01:25,130 --> 00:01:23,490 the merge of scientific progress has 33 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:25,140 observed that we start with Einstein's 34 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:27,479 general theory of relativity and the 35 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:29,460 evolution of quantum mechanics 36 00:01:34,999 --> 00:01:32,700 electrodynamics Bundys negative mass 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:35,009 potential Bob for loops guidelines to 38 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:36,450 anti-gravity which appeared in the 39 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:38,729 film's rather than American Journal of 40 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:41,490 physics there's something that said Kip 41 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:44,070 Thorne and his grad students derived the 42 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:46,079 first solution for traversable in his 43 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:49,140 and then part but now came along with is 44 00:01:53,370 --> 00:01:51,280 our claim of a gravity shield fall 45 00:01:56,430 --> 00:01:53,380 al-kabir publication in the journal of 46 00:02:00,330 --> 00:01:56,440 classical quantum gravity of work drive 47 00:02:02,460 --> 00:02:00,340 they have been house and co-authors help 48 00:02:05,130 --> 00:02:02,470 Rodolfo and so forth and their shelves 49 00:02:07,410 --> 00:02:05,140 as a quantum drag effect called vacuum 50 00:02:10,499 --> 00:02:07,420 bag and chimney lives first patent on 51 00:02:13,410 --> 00:02:10,509 his transient market inertial thruster 52 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:13,420 and not visitors publication and his new 53 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:15,640 answer in his book which was a component 54 00:02:22,220 --> 00:02:18,540 of everything published from 1988 to 55 00:02:24,330 --> 00:02:22,230 1995 all in traditional Bavarian has 56 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:24,340 everything he learned that are about him 57 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:26,410 including time machines and that was 58 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:27,820 peddled by the American Institute of 59 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:31,900 Physics press and they like this at the 60 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:33,340 beginning of the day for propulsion 61 00:02:39,059 --> 00:02:36,190 physics program that he was the manager 62 00:02:41,850 --> 00:02:39,069 for at NASA Glenn he has a space drawed 63 00:02:44,970 --> 00:02:41,860 concepts and issues and how put out my 64 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:44,980 boss has developed the polarizable 65 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:47,410 vacuum and propulsion George Hathaway 66 00:02:52,559 --> 00:02:49,480 was looking at an old test of the power 67 00:02:54,330 --> 00:02:52,569 of gravity shield and Jade and clay and 68 00:02:56,970 --> 00:02:54,340 Bob Ford we're looking at quantum vacuum 69 00:02:58,830 --> 00:02:56,980 energy propulsion so you have that 70 00:03:00,210 --> 00:02:58,840 progress and that's just not that's not 71 00:03:03,449 --> 00:03:00,220 anything that's not an all-inclusive 72 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:03,459 list there were many other fields many 73 00:03:08,190 --> 00:03:05,170 other topics and physics that were being 74 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:08,200 evaluated the books purpose was to look 75 00:03:12,030 --> 00:03:10,810 at comparing all the possibilities of 76 00:03:13,259 --> 00:03:12,040 the different types of breakthrough 77 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:13,269 propulsion physics that would be 78 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:15,670 proposed by various investigators around 79 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:18,310 the world not just the hot topics when 80 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:20,079 we are interested exploring the physics 81 00:03:23,510 --> 00:03:22,690 aerospace engineers and managers without 82 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:23,520 any higher 83 00:03:26,930 --> 00:03:25,170 because this is the point the people 84 00:03:28,550 --> 00:03:26,940 that work with the policy makers in 85 00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:28,560 government they get the funding they 86 00:03:32,990 --> 00:03:30,540 start the programs and they execute them 87 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:33,000 and unfortunately the aerospace 88 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:34,560 engineers are at the cutting edge of 89 00:03:38,930 --> 00:03:37,200 physics physicists are so the idea is to 90 00:03:41,570 --> 00:03:38,940 pay the cutting edge of physics the 91 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:41,580 filtering and bakery out the the 92 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:44,250 out-of-the-box ideas to the people in 93 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:45,930 aerospace engineering who can hopefully 94 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:48,060 take program develop problems based on 95 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:50,400 these ideas in order to show it can be 96 00:03:57,950 --> 00:03:54,120 done that could be done next in the way 97 00:04:00,350 --> 00:03:57,960 of here's that we may now here's what's 98 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:00,360 unresolved and so there's unfinished 99 00:04:04,820 --> 00:04:02,850 business for students and pioneers to 100 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:04,830 wrap up just to work on to solve 101 00:04:10,790 --> 00:04:08,850 problems on the diamonds to distinguish 102 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:10,800 films from frontier where that is very 103 00:04:15,590 --> 00:04:13,530 important because this subject is batted 104 00:04:17,180 --> 00:04:15,600 they deal initially at the very 105 00:04:19,699 --> 00:04:17,190 beginning and it still does to a little 106 00:04:21,710 --> 00:04:19,709 small what much smaller degree a lot of 107 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:21,720 division for the ministry an academic 108 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:24,240 community because they know the physics 109 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:25,530 they said they may look at the numbers 110 00:04:28,460 --> 00:04:27,090 they look at the equations and say they 111 00:04:30,110 --> 00:04:28,470 say to themselves well breakthrough 112 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:30,120 profession physician or such thing they 113 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:32,190 will drive the wormholes these things 114 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:35,040 are impossible to attain so they think 115 00:04:39,530 --> 00:04:37,020 that that kind of stuff is to science 116 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:39,540 fiction for them to dive into but often 117 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:41,760 beers paper Morrison theories both are 118 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:44,130 paper that visitors built and so forth 119 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:46,110 have a brought that into mainstream 120 00:04:51,740 --> 00:04:49,710 physics or here's this is the first 121 00:04:53,630 --> 00:04:51,750 witness book that covers the concept of 122 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:53,640 gravity control propulsion faster than 123 00:05:01,190 --> 00:04:56,010 light travel related energy conversion 124 00:05:05,060 --> 00:05:01,200 and managing such research in our 18 125 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:05,070 years authors 2712 offers 22 chapters on 126 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:07,290 this alien of pages took us on this 127 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:09,000 three years to put the book together and 128 00:05:12,830 --> 00:05:10,950 as a varieties in favor to that in 129 00:05:14,750 --> 00:05:12,840 envision correctly approaching 2,000 130 00:05:17,810 --> 00:05:14,760 copies sold and it's actually a 131 00:05:18,770 --> 00:05:17,820 best-seller for the inaudible a press in 132 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:18,780 that series 133 00:05:24,290 --> 00:05:22,230 nearly these series and progress of 134 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:24,300 astronautics and Aeronautics are usually 135 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:25,600 jet engine development 136 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:28,450 rocket fuel's rocket engineer dynamics 137 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:30,130 astrodynamics and things like that so 138 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:32,890 this was a smash head for these guys 139 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:35,770 mark and I over the other news and of 140 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:38,440 the lead author affiliations 40% didn't 141 00:05:42,450 --> 00:05:40,330 also thirteen percent whatever the US 142 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:42,460 government labs and thirty percent were 143 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:44,050 private industry consultants with ten 144 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:46,590 percent a university is 70 percent for 145 00:05:53,910 --> 00:05:50,800 and here's the list of authors some of 146 00:05:55,410 --> 00:05:53,920 who maybe wanted to if anyone was going 147 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:55,420 to be desperately letter Jimmy would 148 00:06:01,020 --> 00:05:57,970 work and what it is my boss all put off 149 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:01,030 and some of these names you may not 150 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:02,890 recognize but you may recognize Bob 151 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:05,680 forward we have this power a period of 152 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:07,840 years which were pulled from the LR 153 00:06:11,910 --> 00:06:09,880 devil a nuclear and future Floyd 154 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:11,920 Technical Committee they have every a 155 00:06:15,090 --> 00:06:13,390 stands for the American Institute of 156 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:15,100 Aeronautics and Astronautics and it's a 157 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:17,110 worldwide aerospace professional Society 158 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:19,690 it's been around since the beginning of 159 00:06:23,940 --> 00:06:22,390 the 60s and it was a major of the rel 160 00:06:26,250 --> 00:06:23,950 canonical' society with the American 161 00:06:31,380 --> 00:06:26,260 Astronomical Society there are these 162 00:06:33,570 --> 00:06:31,390 were our period years the organization 163 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:33,580 the belt started this way began in 164 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:37,210 understanding the problem which is 165 00:06:41,660 --> 00:06:38,710 looking at the history of Aitkin for 166 00:06:45,420 --> 00:06:41,670 patient physics and as it was done by 167 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:45,430 organizations like my Institute project 168 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:48,310 we lowered the NASA program and so forth 169 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:49,990 including our days in the context and 170 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:51,670 then evaluating the limits of 171 00:06:55,140 --> 00:06:53,410 interstellar technology based on the 172 00:06:58,020 --> 00:06:55,150 advanced physics that we know like solar 173 00:07:01,100 --> 00:06:58,030 cells in power propulsion and antimatter 174 00:07:03,330 --> 00:07:01,110 rockets nuclear propulsion and so forth 175 00:07:07,170 --> 00:07:03,340 profession without rocket that was 176 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:07,180 looking at a real journey of reaction in 177 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:09,160 space drives without violating the new 178 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:11,470 conservation that recover space drive 179 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:13,560 physics pioneers gravity control 180 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:16,330 non-viable ages and other approaches 181 00:07:22,410 --> 00:07:18,790 then the faster the on travel will be 182 00:07:24,870 --> 00:07:22,420 based on faster concepts in general to 183 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:24,880 researchers traversable inhales and 184 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:27,310 web-browser have been faster by 185 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:29,170 communications and quantum physics by a 186 00:07:34,049 --> 00:07:31,449 low mortality event 187 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:34,059 considerations basically licking 188 00:07:38,369 --> 00:07:35,710 animation from the quantum vacuum energy 189 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:38,379 from sanity lessons and non-viable 190 00:07:42,659 --> 00:07:40,960 attention places like possible cold 191 00:07:45,269 --> 00:07:42,669 fusion and magnetic motors and things 192 00:07:46,769 --> 00:07:45,279 like that from this player failure at 193 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:46,779 this part of the book published the 194 00:07:52,980 --> 00:07:49,930 computation tears and conventions needed 195 00:07:54,929 --> 00:07:52,990 to have a universe away which when we 196 00:07:56,969 --> 00:07:54,939 talk about these things what kind of 197 00:07:58,290 --> 00:07:56,979 computer programs are applicable for 198 00:08:00,659 --> 00:07:58,300 evaluating breakthrough propulsion 199 00:08:02,369 --> 00:08:00,669 physics translating different orders of 200 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:02,379 physics into a common injury anything 201 00:08:08,189 --> 00:08:05,460 and then how to do pioneering research 202 00:08:10,350 --> 00:08:08,199 they I've investigated to make that is 203 00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:10,360 to understand the fact that spaceflight 204 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:12,879 is really hard folks if you look at this 205 00:08:16,860 --> 00:08:15,069 log scale to find out as we go further 206 00:08:18,809 --> 00:08:16,870 and further out of the solar system and 207 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:18,819 further through the Kuiper belt out to 208 00:08:23,999 --> 00:08:21,039 the aircar now blowing all the way to 209 00:08:27,119 --> 00:08:24,009 Alpha Centauri which is about him just 210 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:27,129 inside of a million astronomical units 211 00:08:33,810 --> 00:08:29,889 about half a million astronomical units 212 00:08:36,569 --> 00:08:33,820 you see about the technique and energy 213 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:36,579 demand infrastructure and change in 214 00:08:41,490 --> 00:08:38,800 velocity is gets harder and harder and 215 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:41,500 harder and harder so I keep this picture 216 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:43,360 in mind as we progress further into the 217 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:45,610 talk here when you look at that picture 218 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:47,260 we want to say well if they're going to 219 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:49,360 have a profession technology how much 220 00:08:53,460 --> 00:08:51,850 propeller is going to be needed we will 221 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:53,470 look at an example propeller required 222 00:08:58,259 --> 00:08:54,970 for the mass of the Space Shuttle 223 00:09:01,829 --> 00:08:58,269 Orbiter past 43 light-years so you have 224 00:09:04,139 --> 00:09:01,839 a three axis trophy or showing the pilot 225 00:09:07,079 --> 00:09:04,149 mass increasing in this direction on 226 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:07,089 nine axis and then rocket efficiency 227 00:09:12,430 --> 00:09:09,670 given in terms of its specific impulse 228 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:12,440 and seconds increases fairly well 229 00:09:17,379 --> 00:09:14,959 and fission bomb propulsion to the 230 00:09:20,619 --> 00:09:17,389 antimatter rocket 250 thousand second 231 00:09:23,019 --> 00:09:20,629 specific impulse so Rockets get better 232 00:09:25,749 --> 00:09:23,029 that axis and then of course we have 233 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:25,759 mission adoration the trips get along 234 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:27,920 the along my toxins and where you learn 235 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:30,110 from this kind of thing is through the 236 00:09:35,860 --> 00:09:33,769 look at this you see but with specific 237 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:35,870 impulse in a few thousands of seconds 238 00:09:39,790 --> 00:09:38,360 you're gonna need about 10 billion super 239 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:39,800 tape there's a propellant in the 240 00:09:44,590 --> 00:09:42,230 dictionary will there's the specific 241 00:09:47,139 --> 00:09:44,600 impulse increases then the propellant 242 00:09:51,069 --> 00:09:47,149 mass drops dramatically that's very less 243 00:09:52,660 --> 00:09:51,079 however consequently the duration of the 244 00:09:55,179 --> 00:09:52,670 mission is going to be a thousand years 245 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:55,189 if you want to shorten in addition to me 246 00:10:00,100 --> 00:09:58,250 reasonable within a lifespan then as you 247 00:10:02,350 --> 00:10:00,110 see the propellant requiring that your 248 00:10:03,999 --> 00:10:02,360 skyrockets back up again and that's what 249 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:04,009 you wave for this use and conventionally 250 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,800 until you in physics and this is what 251 00:10:10,569 --> 00:10:08,480 the purpose of our research is about is 252 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:10,579 how do we overcome this terrible issue 253 00:10:15,369 --> 00:10:13,910 well Bob frisbee who's now retired for 254 00:10:17,860 --> 00:10:15,379 the Jet Propulsion Laboratory 255 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:17,870 dead-ass started in our bulky but 256 00:10:23,769 --> 00:10:21,230 Davison 85-page chopper 2 and here's the 257 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:23,779 graph of the cruise speed velocity of an 258 00:10:27,550 --> 00:10:25,310 interstellar mission versus the trip 259 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:27,560 time and then each of these diagonal 260 00:10:32,110 --> 00:10:30,529 values represent interstellar features 261 00:10:34,689 --> 00:10:32,120 or planetary features and hair style 262 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:34,699 features at increasing distance for 263 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:37,519 example the heliopause is out of here 264 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:38,350 today 265 00:10:44,300 --> 00:10:40,930 line and the gravitational is of the Sun 266 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:44,310 is at 550 Lu here and the Kuiper belt is 267 00:10:50,430 --> 00:10:48,310 4,200 to 1000 I will not ban your cloud 268 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:50,440 rise within this bound and this is 269 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:52,270 interstellar distance from 33 270 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:53,950 light-years the fading light so that 271 00:10:58,860 --> 00:10:56,050 would be a vision mission so they're 272 00:11:01,500 --> 00:10:58,870 going to look at the fact that the layer 273 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:01,510 of the increase velocity the rather it's 274 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:02,890 going to take to get there 275 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:06,490 the faster you go the shorter this time 276 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:07,720 it's going to take you to get there and 277 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:11,110 then you compare this the requirement of 278 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:12,910 the propulsion capabilities that are 279 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:13,810 going to be able to meet those 280 00:11:18,420 --> 00:11:16,690 requirements so here Bob frisbee took a 281 00:11:21,150 --> 00:11:18,430 look and saw how these propulsion 282 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:21,160 technologies NEP is nuclear electric 283 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:23,950 propulsion and so how they mash in how 284 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:25,900 they cut across the slice of the 285 00:11:31,530 --> 00:11:29,740 distance versus time versus speed axis 286 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:31,540 and here the other part of the 287 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:32,950 professional capabilities that we 288 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:34,300 theater-style initially matter 289 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:36,220 antimatter beam energy and fusion Ram 290 00:11:40,530 --> 00:11:38,770 Jackson so badass he took a look at the 291 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:40,540 anus of interstellar flight technology 292 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:42,700 he looked at those profession concepts 293 00:11:47,070 --> 00:11:45,430 and apply two filters a bag of v 294 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:47,080 capability man against the change of 295 00:11:51,810 --> 00:11:49,210 velocity needed to be there and to get 296 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:51,820 to the cruise speedy the infrastructure 297 00:11:55,050 --> 00:11:53,650 requirements are like how big can you 298 00:11:57,390 --> 00:11:55,060 build your talents to carry the 299 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:57,400 propellant as well as radiation 300 00:12:01,230 --> 00:11:59,050 shielding within the potential system 301 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:01,240 and so forth and then the technology 302 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:03,130 requirements on building it and we apply 303 00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:05,440 these three folders and as say for that 304 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:08,380 last big list of possibilities they 305 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:11,170 start getting really them into very few 306 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:14,050 number of possibilities self-serving a 307 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:15,670 questionable you know a theory of a new 308 00:12:22,110 --> 00:12:17,770 definitely else they survived all three 309 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:22,120 failure so it's not very helpful so a 310 00:12:26,130 --> 00:12:23,710 proportion talk now this tells us 311 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:26,140 application technology even to the even 312 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:28,360 fish to the raiment of innovative 313 00:12:32,130 --> 00:12:30,040 physics is basically an adequate for 314 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:32,140 timely interstellar flight to circumvent 315 00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:34,270 these new limits are these limits we 316 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:35,830 gotta have the new propulsion physics of 317 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:38,300 some sort even if the 318 00:12:42,740 --> 00:12:40,410 impossible investigating physics in 319 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:42,750 terms of spaceflight introduces new 320 00:12:47,630 --> 00:12:45,330 perspectives to solving the mysteries of 321 00:12:49,340 --> 00:12:47,640 science may optimistically of 322 00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:49,350 reification physicists discovered a new 323 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:51,300 class of technologies would result in 324 00:12:55,210 --> 00:12:52,980 revolutionize in space flight and 325 00:12:58,970 --> 00:12:55,220 enabling humanity to reach the other 326 00:13:01,040 --> 00:12:58,980 debate of the stars here's an envelop 327 00:13:03,230 --> 00:13:01,050 that mark likes to use show people its 328 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:03,240 history repeating itself to exceed the 329 00:13:08,030 --> 00:13:05,490 limits apply our technology we want to 330 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:08,040 see entirely different technology and 331 00:13:12,350 --> 00:13:10,050 that was given from the book by 332 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:12,360 fostering titled innovation the 333 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:14,850 attackers advantage publishing 86 here 334 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:16,800 is showing that the Masters that have 335 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:19,290 mastered a certain type of technology 336 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:21,210 are using incremental evolutionary 337 00:13:26,510 --> 00:13:23,880 approach to improve the technology till 338 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:26,520 it fills performance flatlines that 339 00:13:31,930 --> 00:13:29,370 revolutionary pioneers engage in 340 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:31,940 research and develop disruptive in 341 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:34,770 disruptive innovations that basically 342 00:13:38,270 --> 00:13:36,690 lead to revolutionary technologies that 343 00:13:42,650 --> 00:13:38,280 they're way above the performance 344 00:13:45,140 --> 00:13:42,660 flatline so basically we're looking at 345 00:13:47,540 --> 00:13:45,150 compare revolutionary research twelve 346 00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:47,550 additional research we master the know 347 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:50,400 like how they mastered said that our 348 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:52,290 Savior technology and the sea and 349 00:13:59,780 --> 00:13:56,220 advanced it back in tubes if they may we 350 00:14:01,850 --> 00:13:59,790 have the piston driven propeller 351 00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:01,860 fighters that we advanced among the 352 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:02,910 really line 353 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:05,370 with the future recorded the main 354 00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:08,010 concept so this is what an example of 355 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:10,950 evolutionary research mastery what we 356 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:12,870 already know is looks like and then 357 00:14:16,460 --> 00:14:14,850 revolutionary research leads to the 358 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:16,470 invention of the steam engine which may 359 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:19,770 beyond the concept of using cells to 360 00:14:25,460 --> 00:14:23,730 generate thrust sized a transistors the 361 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:25,470 jet engine and hopefully in the future 362 00:14:32,450 --> 00:14:28,860 warp drives an example of revolutionary 363 00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:32,460 research there very things that we 364 00:14:36,860 --> 00:14:34,320 discovered in the abated profession 365 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:36,870 physics program at NASA is without a 366 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:38,910 look at these three things now speed and 367 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:42,870 energy because really propulsion methods 368 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:45,120 that eliminate the need for propellant 369 00:14:49,340 --> 00:14:47,070 or beaming energy you just don't want to 370 00:14:51,740 --> 00:14:49,350 take so much with you how can we have a 371 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,750 fast interstellar trip without having to 372 00:14:56,810 --> 00:14:53,760 drive all that power with you or are 373 00:14:59,060 --> 00:14:56,820 that propellant the energy source is the 374 00:15:00,230 --> 00:14:59,070 big driver of the engineering speed to 375 00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,240 spend it all is simply whether existing 376 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:01,920 units like light speed limit to 377 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:03,780 dramatically reduce trans at times and 378 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:04,860 that leads to faster and light 379 00:15:10,130 --> 00:15:07,770 considerations and energy are leaves us 380 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:10,140 to what methods do we have available to 381 00:15:15,170 --> 00:15:12,630 power these these types of technologies 382 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:15,180 or these types of physics the 383 00:15:18,860 --> 00:15:16,800 state-of-the-art assessment that we've 384 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:18,870 looked at now shows that no big things 385 00:15:22,070 --> 00:15:19,920 are aiming it at this time 386 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:22,080 most research that's being done that 387 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:23,850 steps more to in the scientific method 388 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:25,890 which is just defining the problem and 389 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:27,510 collecting the data theoretically and 390 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:30,540 some empirically some research has been 391 00:15:34,580 --> 00:15:32,610 on as far as stop stealing fair which is 392 00:15:37,850 --> 00:15:34,590 fairly hypothesis and testing it and 393 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:37,860 then the degree of activities use dozens 394 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:39,090 of research they publish directly 395 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:43,770 related our papers they publish publish 396 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:45,420 directly related to billions okay other 397 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:46,800 system should have said their papers 398 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:48,630 were directly related to goals hundreds 399 00:15:52,820 --> 00:15:50,370 of researchers covered related basic 400 00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:52,830 physics now a recent phase work their 401 00:15:57,620 --> 00:15:54,960 mistress credibility and Pete's progress 402 00:15:59,000 --> 00:15:57,630 so there's a lot of this going on and 403 00:16:00,800 --> 00:15:59,010 this is the problem that has to be 404 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:00,810 avoided because this is where theta 405 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:03,690 sweet word concerns federal policymakers 406 00:16:09,140 --> 00:16:05,610 when it comes to time to asking for 407 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:09,150 funding for these type of projects when 408 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:11,730 we look at the women maybe our physics 409 00:16:16,139 --> 00:16:14,410 to break through spaceflight 410 00:16:17,699 --> 00:16:16,149 those foundations of the main physics 411 00:16:19,730 --> 00:16:17,709 that we're looking at now by plugging 412 00:16:22,619 --> 00:16:19,740 back in zero point energies 413 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:22,629 dark energy dark matter of the Big Bang 414 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:24,610 and quantum entanglement in 415 00:16:29,309 --> 00:16:27,610 teleportation and what we're asking is 416 00:16:31,319 --> 00:16:29,319 whether than unresolved questions in 417 00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,329 these area of physics and then we look 418 00:16:35,429 --> 00:16:33,519 at the debut of envision slightly faster 419 00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:35,439 right in the end of the stars what are 420 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:37,089 the critical issues in the lens of the 421 00:16:40,590 --> 00:16:38,980 physics and news and you find that 422 00:16:43,769 --> 00:16:40,600 there's the collision where these two 423 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:43,779 sides intersect the intersection reveals 424 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:45,250 the important problems that need to be 425 00:16:49,369 --> 00:16:46,870 solved they live in vain through 426 00:16:52,350 --> 00:16:49,379 profession conference our concept and 427 00:16:54,509 --> 00:16:52,360 this is the foundation of a bill is 428 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:54,519 making out rigorous foundations of what 429 00:16:59,490 --> 00:16:56,110 we know in physics and what are the 430 00:17:01,710 --> 00:16:59,500 unknowns and then what we desire for our 431 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:01,720 future space transport system for 432 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:03,850 interstellar travel and then we're there 433 00:17:10,949 --> 00:17:07,270 intersection occurs is what we are doing 434 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:10,959 in the bill to explain so here are the 435 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:14,140 vision bigger goals mass speed and 436 00:17:18,569 --> 00:17:16,510 energy as I described earlier and then 437 00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:18,579 read the bill may envision concepts and 438 00:17:22,649 --> 00:17:20,559 categories and then here are the 439 00:17:25,289 --> 00:17:22,659 rigorous foundations of science that we 440 00:17:27,659 --> 00:17:25,299 well the now let's hear the trades the 441 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:27,669 theories the spa and the curiosities 442 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:29,710 that come out of those areas of science 443 00:17:37,289 --> 00:17:31,990 and then in the middle of the important 444 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:37,299 problems intersection and I mean you 445 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:39,400 could see there's quite a detailed chart 446 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:42,390 of very well highly interconnected 447 00:17:47,730 --> 00:17:46,510 concepts it's too long there's only 448 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:47,740 enough time for me to go through this 449 00:17:52,620 --> 00:17:49,929 but these are all the concepts that we 450 00:17:54,690 --> 00:17:52,630 evaluated in the book in those 22 451 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:54,700 chapters but we've only looked at a 452 00:18:00,029 --> 00:17:57,850 couple of these topics the books table 453 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,039 of contents is laid out there like this 454 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:02,080 we have to fail written by Barrett 455 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:03,610 returned we originally had arthur c 456 00:18:07,070 --> 00:18:05,320 clarke but he died while was we human in 457 00:18:08,749 --> 00:18:07,080 a script so we 458 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:08,759 asked our good friend that we tend to 459 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:11,610 occasionally and do the and do that for 460 00:18:17,090 --> 00:18:15,090 us so we have to the contextual history 461 00:18:18,919 --> 00:18:17,100 of breakthrough propulsion physics was 462 00:18:21,739 --> 00:18:18,929 done by Paul Wester who is a space 463 00:18:25,879 --> 00:18:21,749 journalist he has the Centauri Dreams 464 00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:25,889 website his about frisbees chapter Mark 465 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:27,360 Miller says the chapters and space 466 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:30,450 drives I've got gravity control George 467 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:33,450 Hathaway in Toronto has fabulous 468 00:18:38,629 --> 00:18:35,730 superconductors and my environment 469 00:18:41,210 --> 00:18:38,639 mechanical devices is a anti-gravity 470 00:18:43,609 --> 00:18:41,220 gyros which have been tested and shown 471 00:18:45,049 --> 00:18:43,619 not to be anti-gravity they're basically 472 00:18:47,379 --> 00:18:45,059 they basically are non-volatile 473 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:47,389 anti-gravity devices the on the shooter 474 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:49,769 examination is done by Steve authority 475 00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:52,289 at the Air Force Academy it's electric 476 00:18:59,090 --> 00:18:55,200 gravity unification that that was an oil 477 00:19:01,489 --> 00:18:59,100 test counts and very lifters we are a 478 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:01,499 two chapters cover that because that is 479 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:05,460 a long very a several decade old concept 480 00:19:09,379 --> 00:19:07,230 that people have been fighting over or 481 00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:09,389 the finally found out that telling 482 00:19:12,259 --> 00:19:10,799 somebody if there's have nothing to do 483 00:19:15,229 --> 00:19:12,269 is they appointed you nothing to do with 484 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:15,239 electro gravity it's not even oil in its 485 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:18,090 neutral particle and they have testing 486 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:20,820 Dennett national some mash Sandia 487 00:19:25,269 --> 00:19:23,450 National Laboratory by a mere a tile and 488 00:19:28,129 --> 00:19:25,279 clarity is a private investigator 489 00:19:30,019 --> 00:19:28,139 scientists in the defense industry who 490 00:19:31,239 --> 00:19:30,029 did is also and then he said others 491 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:31,249 other topics that we've covered 492 00:19:35,749 --> 00:19:33,809 yesterday this the quantum vacuum 493 00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:35,759 initializer stochastic Petri dynamics 494 00:19:41,239 --> 00:19:38,460 relativistic spaceflight or faster no 495 00:19:44,779 --> 00:19:41,249 topics faster light communications 496 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:44,789 space powers zero point energy Steiner 497 00:19:49,879 --> 00:19:47,129 in Russells free energy curves 498 00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:49,889 computational tools so now we're going 499 00:19:52,489 --> 00:19:51,539 to get into there a couple of the topics 500 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:52,499 where drives 501 00:19:59,479 --> 00:19:57,210 oh so you make it work drives and they 502 00:20:01,779 --> 00:19:59,489 ask the question is it possible and the 503 00:20:03,609 --> 00:20:01,789 answer is yes Einstein's theory is where 504 00:20:06,489 --> 00:20:03,619 we'll go paint them that's where our 505 00:20:09,639 --> 00:20:06,499 Kabir discover the metric by looking at 506 00:20:10,989 --> 00:20:09,649 how do I wanna leave a ship the space at 507 00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:10,999 web speed how does it work 508 00:20:15,129 --> 00:20:13,220 the ship looks like it's ball surfing on 509 00:20:17,529 --> 00:20:15,139 a wave of space-time faster than light 510 00:20:19,479 --> 00:20:17,539 but yeah the reference frame the ship is 511 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,489 in it's not violating the special 512 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:21,200 relativity principle because the 513 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:23,090 spaceship is with an inertial frame 514 00:20:27,549 --> 00:20:25,039 that's always traveling less than light 515 00:20:30,369 --> 00:20:27,559 that it's the remote observers outside 516 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:30,379 that we abundant that we're better fed 517 00:20:35,349 --> 00:20:32,330 up by negative vacuum energy that 518 00:20:37,690 --> 00:20:35,359 creates this will drive effect when they 519 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:37,700 were outside looking at this they say 520 00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:38,529 this thing 521 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:40,820 transitive space our super limited 522 00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,609 speeds and it's absolute supreme speeds 523 00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:45,919 not effective the energy required 524 00:20:50,589 --> 00:20:48,169 however is extremely high and the unity 525 00:20:53,169 --> 00:20:50,599 of the SteriPEN to a negative mass 526 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:53,179 equivalence because your carriers you 527 00:20:57,489 --> 00:20:54,710 out of the Balaton is called sub balki 528 00:21:01,060 --> 00:20:57,499 energy and this is the most difficult 529 00:21:04,089 --> 00:21:01,070 thing to engineer commercially and those 530 00:21:05,979 --> 00:21:04,099 are different genre nothing moves except 531 00:21:09,249 --> 00:21:05,989 the traveler you set up the negative 532 00:21:10,899 --> 00:21:09,259 energy shell and this is a this is a 533 00:21:12,279 --> 00:21:10,909 fictitious diagram this is not a world 534 00:21:15,070 --> 00:21:12,289 where they live site this is called a 535 00:21:18,269 --> 00:21:15,080 thorn diagram and a flam diagram is a 536 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:18,279 constant picture in time and radius and 537 00:21:24,339 --> 00:21:21,710 we're looking at a constant angle theta 538 00:21:26,289 --> 00:21:24,349 and so this not particular spherical and 539 00:21:28,479 --> 00:21:26,299 safer so we're just taking a slice 540 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:28,489 through constant only one angle so 541 00:21:31,389 --> 00:21:29,809 basically we're going to have a field 542 00:21:33,879 --> 00:21:31,399 with negative energy that has odd 543 00:21:34,690 --> 00:21:33,889 replace of gravitational force it dishes 544 00:21:36,489 --> 00:21:34,700 space out 545 00:21:38,259 --> 00:21:36,499 wholesome fear dopant keeps it from 546 00:21:40,570 --> 00:21:38,269 collapse and there's no event horizon 547 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:40,580 were singularity like a block wall so 548 00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:42,289 travelers should be able to go inside 549 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:44,269 that now and then through the fear 550 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:46,190 without didn't we depart and come out 551 00:21:50,649 --> 00:21:48,710 the other side the night stay at PNA 552 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:50,659 which is the a theory right but KB which 553 00:21:55,089 --> 00:21:53,330 is serious this is me on this space this 554 00:21:56,589 --> 00:21:55,099 is the normos based on continuing what 555 00:21:58,210 --> 00:21:56,599 you would really otherwise travel 556 00:22:00,820 --> 00:21:58,220 through but this is a shortcut through 557 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:00,830 hyperspace need and you get there in 558 00:22:08,259 --> 00:22:04,369 just a matter of seconds there's a big 559 00:22:10,210 --> 00:22:08,269 valentine square wave made out nobody on 560 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:10,220 the Sony you can see what kind of 561 00:22:16,299 --> 00:22:13,330 there's a galaxy there when his 562 00:22:18,419 --> 00:22:16,309 anti-gravitational out they can't 563 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:18,429 activate now I like to call that snooze 564 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:21,769 they that know when there's actually 565 00:22:26,289 --> 00:22:23,210 acting like a spherical Christmas 566 00:22:27,789 --> 00:22:26,299 ornament a spherical one's so the image 567 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:27,799 on the inside coming from the other side 568 00:22:34,299 --> 00:22:31,129 of the world now is basically distorted 569 00:22:36,190 --> 00:22:34,309 and inverted there's a flat Wien whole 570 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,200 one of us can take many shapes that can 571 00:22:39,879 --> 00:22:38,000 be spherical that to be fact that that 572 00:22:45,970 --> 00:22:39,889 we retain the way that can be polyhedral 573 00:22:51,009 --> 00:22:45,980 and self-worth so any of the concepts of 574 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:51,019 all where drives a locality basically in 575 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:52,610 the unresolved issues are the 576 00:22:57,869 --> 00:22:55,610 unobtainable mad about energy negative 577 00:23:01,840 --> 00:22:57,879 ten of the formula tools required to 578 00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,850 create a 100 meter diameter wheel bubble 579 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:03,679 so that you can only have a wave the 580 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:06,320 very corners per second it gets it's 581 00:23:10,509 --> 00:23:08,330 still bad really even today the speed of 582 00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:10,519 the snails crawl when a day as they as a 583 00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:12,500 snails crawl it's about negative 20 or 584 00:23:18,220 --> 00:23:15,470 30 something channels so the this is 585 00:23:20,169 --> 00:23:18,230 this is based on the energy study done 586 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:20,179 by Matt visitors colleagues who looked 587 00:23:24,669 --> 00:23:21,950 at the gravitational interaction between 588 00:23:27,730 --> 00:23:24,679 web bubble the spaceship and they were 589 00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:27,740 perfect in the space time and the energy 590 00:23:32,919 --> 00:23:30,590 conditions and basically we they 591 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:32,929 discovered that it deprives you just 592 00:23:35,980 --> 00:23:34,610 impractical if you've been out that this 593 00:23:37,299 --> 00:23:35,990 mission negative energy pulled out of 594 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:37,309 the vacuum the basically it's 595 00:23:41,740 --> 00:23:39,830 impractical to use another native energy 596 00:23:43,899 --> 00:23:41,750 conditions or the conditions are what 597 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:43,909 allows you to create that kind of energy 598 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:47,600 out of the vacuum control ability is are 599 00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,100 causally disconnected since i've been 600 00:23:53,049 --> 00:23:51,200 you created world bevel the starship is 601 00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:53,059 not able to causally connect to it 602 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:55,070 you're not able to control it so about 603 00:23:58,899 --> 00:23:56,690 maybe problem you always have closed 604 00:24:01,509 --> 00:23:58,909 timelike curves or time machines in work 605 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:01,519 drives and wormholes and momentum 606 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:03,590 conservation hasn't been evaluated on 607 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:05,809 this caveat though by saying that 608 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:07,610 Einstein's general theory field 609 00:24:11,499 --> 00:24:09,769 equations already have conservation was 610 00:24:13,389 --> 00:24:11,509 built into them it's just out there 611 00:24:15,860 --> 00:24:13,399 having been demonstrated explicitly by 612 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:15,870 any of the theorists are john cream 613 00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,130 requirement more locality by looking at 614 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,320 virtual causal communication and that it 615 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:22,240 is communicating backwards in time by 616 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:25,350 way of a corner entitlement experiment 617 00:24:30,779 --> 00:24:27,910 so this is what the book sections look 618 00:24:33,270 --> 00:24:30,789 like four-wheel drives Indian Hills and 619 00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:33,280 interconnected out of the rigorous known 620 00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:35,740 things the unknown of the interesting 621 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:38,980 curiosities then the hypothesis and test 622 00:24:42,919 --> 00:24:41,289 of the vacuum fluctuations that are 623 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:42,929 needed to create the negative energy 624 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:46,450 issues in their names and the concepts 625 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:48,190 of their of the goal vision driven of 626 00:24:55,399 --> 00:24:50,710 the day up of the veil driven visions 627 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:55,409 that's right it is that john cream is 628 00:25:01,860 --> 00:24:58,450 experimental design for a retro causal 629 00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:01,870 experience for FTL suddenly and i don't 630 00:25:05,549 --> 00:25:03,190 have too much time to talk about that 631 00:25:07,409 --> 00:25:05,559 but that's in the book this is martin 632 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,419 else's notion of space drives he's 633 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:09,760 making that you know without violating 634 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:11,770 in momentum energy conservation is there 635 00:25:16,649 --> 00:25:13,929 where we can manipulate space-time or 636 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:16,659 inertial frames back to create a space 637 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:18,970 drive that would submit a differential 638 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:21,490 sale or an induction sir or a diode sale 639 00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:23,320 and these are just a fairly straight of 640 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:26,470 purposes only and he's looking at thrust 641 00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:29,020 and pressure in area calculations as a 642 00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:31,270 way of deriving a conceptualization of 643 00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:34,440 these things and this is you know 644 00:25:38,909 --> 00:25:37,179 metadata above a of some sort or change 645 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:38,919 initial frames would push on that in 646 00:25:43,049 --> 00:25:41,530 space and so this is what he's kind of 647 00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:43,059 thinking in his mind he would like to 648 00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:47,100 see happen but then here's another way 649 00:25:54,779 --> 00:25:51,630 this is the soap bubble analogy of the 650 00:26:01,020 --> 00:25:54,789 space-time be worked in such a way that 651 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:01,030 that pushes you forward okay and so this 652 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:02,710 is the initial for notifications 653 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:05,110 propulsion so these are the concepts be 654 00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:07,570 explored that Bob Forge gravitational 655 00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:10,780 dipole Martin Taylor is for validating 656 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:13,630 device and here the concepts that are 657 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:16,240 involved in the biggest foundations and 658 00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:18,520 curiosities have been the theory of 659 00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,960 envisions the concepts and categories 660 00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:22,000 and then everything that intersection 661 00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:24,360 between that needs to be studied 662 00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:27,280 space drive science issues they are made 663 00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:29,080 in two dozen approaches to eliminate all 664 00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:31,870 specific issues and opportunities their 665 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:33,460 objections and objectives 666 00:26:37,409 --> 00:26:35,650 conservation of momentum net external 667 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:37,419 force that is your conservation because 668 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:40,570 remember Newton's third law says option 669 00:26:45,419 --> 00:26:43,450 equals reaction and we don't know 670 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:45,429 everything that has reaction with drives 671 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:48,610 well drive is probably the closest I 672 00:26:54,930 --> 00:26:51,130 think to meeting this definition because 673 00:26:57,539 --> 00:26:54,940 there is no there is no use of news 674 00:26:59,070 --> 00:26:57,549 they've now it doesn't need to occur our 675 00:26:59,730 --> 00:26:59,080 tradition Bavarian here's that's a 676 00:27:01,890 --> 00:26:59,740 different story 677 00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:01,900 a commercially named he was a fixated 678 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:04,030 thing in space so it's a fixed total the 679 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:06,610 Explorer is doing is doing the moving 680 00:27:11,399 --> 00:27:08,650 he's going to be a rocket he's going to 681 00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:11,409 health to expel propellant or in here to 682 00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:12,700 move forward through the air hole but 683 00:27:16,289 --> 00:27:13,990 that's okay because the window is a 684 00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:16,299 shortcut so did seem to study 685 00:27:20,909 --> 00:27:18,419 interstellar distances very quickly and 686 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,919 so there's nothing out there are you 687 00:27:25,530 --> 00:27:22,960 solve curiosities I can issue Fame for 688 00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:25,540 meters we don't know basically from the 689 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,590 earliest times during their initial 690 00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:28,240 frames come from you don't know how they 691 00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:28,900 are 692 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:30,580 it's the fundamental basis of it 693 00:27:34,289 --> 00:27:32,740 generates are these big out of inertial 694 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:34,299 frame but we don't know about much about 695 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:35,970 it other than that machs piece of 696 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:38,200 space-time density this is interesting 697 00:27:40,649 --> 00:27:40,150 this is not a experimental error here 698 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,659 mark 699 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:42,880 if this was 10 to the negative n plus or 700 00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:45,190 minus 26 kilogram per cubic meter this 701 00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:47,020 is the way she say the arranging for the 702 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:50,559 tend to be negative way to 10 to the 26 703 00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:53,440 and I thought was a bad way very not 704 00:27:59,159 --> 00:27:56,380 docking according back in density this 705 00:28:01,799 --> 00:27:59,169 is again a ways it's not representative 706 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:01,809 of our measuring error this is represent 707 00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,250 the better table is right there this is 708 00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:05,200 the better table I tell you we won't 709 00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:08,200 experience the many look at the density 710 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:09,880 of space-time because this gives us an 711 00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:11,320 idea what can we do to manipulate 712 00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:14,200 initial feelings or a better space-time 713 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:15,700 so you look at the density of their 714 00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:18,460 matter they are depressed dark matter 715 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:21,070 and it helped us to have the same mass 716 00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:23,320 densities dark energy based on the 717 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:27,220 misery of time to a supernova redshift 718 00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:28,350 far out and 719 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:30,360 the edge of the universe the mass 720 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:31,710 density is telling the negative 721 00:28:35,450 --> 00:28:33,690 twenty-six kilograms per cubic meter the 722 00:28:37,999 --> 00:28:35,460 energy density of the Nano joule per 723 00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:38,009 cubic meter if you take the 724 00:28:42,529 --> 00:28:40,440 electromagnetic zero energy and you 725 00:28:44,779 --> 00:28:42,539 integrated to the nucleon Compton 726 00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:44,789 frequency this is the energy basis this 727 00:28:48,620 --> 00:28:46,230 is the mass density you get from that 728 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:48,630 energy and I think this would be 729 00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:51,330 intended 113 Joule per cubic meter and 730 00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:54,419 then look at these numbers are compared 731 00:28:59,299 --> 00:28:57,539 to the days module is calculated for jdi 732 00:29:01,490 --> 00:28:59,309 eternity the stress versus strain which 733 00:29:03,249 --> 00:29:01,500 is the gravitational coupling constant 734 00:29:06,379 --> 00:29:03,259 out there in Einstein's field equations 735 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:06,389 relating the geometry will on the left 736 00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:08,690 and the space and letter the matter 737 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,700 energy on the right and this is the 738 00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:12,960 coupling constant multiplied that by 739 00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:15,000 that matter energy here's the units and 740 00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:16,919 it is what you get in terms of kilogram 741 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:19,320 per cubic meter it's on the area of turn 742 00:29:25,419 --> 00:29:22,110 of the TV five kilogram per cubic meter 743 00:29:28,669 --> 00:29:25,429 shows you that space is extremely stiff 744 00:29:31,159 --> 00:29:28,679 space is extremely stiff the vacuum cpe 745 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:31,169 if you can add it all up would give you 746 00:29:36,139 --> 00:29:33,480 something that where it's not within 747 00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:36,149 that ballpark but it gets close and it 748 00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:37,919 shows that I am NOT an energy that we 749 00:29:42,289 --> 00:29:40,620 have access to cosmological is very weak 750 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:42,299 compared to that you would be to been a 751 00:29:47,389 --> 00:29:44,460 space and of course up to the point in 752 00:29:49,639 --> 00:29:47,399 that space is even stiffer and there's a 753 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:49,649 frame they are they are the reference 754 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:51,210 frames against which acceleration is 755 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:53,250 measured their forms are property of 756 00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:55,129 space-time that is not fairly understood 757 00:29:59,779 --> 00:29:58,049 everyone we have max Percival times 10 758 00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,789 versions of knots principals out there 759 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:01,679 with their own ideas of how to explain 760 00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:02,250 Yosha 761 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:04,620 our space-time is work by the presence 762 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:06,840 of mass energy viable Einstein equations 763 00:30:11,509 --> 00:30:09,210 which is given here you see a ball of 764 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:11,519 matter is very better space around it in 765 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:13,830 the web machine that nice whether she 766 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:18,210 registration gravity this is the first 767 00:30:23,419 --> 00:30:20,250 that we associated at the geometrical 768 00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:23,429 craving of that space and that's what we 769 00:30:26,749 --> 00:30:24,899 would call the mercial field gradient 770 00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:26,759 generate so V also predicts my 771 00:30:30,499 --> 00:30:29,070 administrative relative initial forms 772 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:30,509 and the facility of we're trading losses 773 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:32,140 and this is well 774 00:30:34,919 --> 00:30:33,490 by general relativity is called the 775 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:34,929 interstate in fact or the gravitational 776 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:37,809 Faraday effect and unfortunately the 777 00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:40,630 loss of gravity pull be there's no 778 00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:42,070 successful measuring it because there 779 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:43,540 were problems with the highest 780 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:45,370 sensitivity Christian drivers that they 781 00:30:49,049 --> 00:30:47,710 use they were just done there's a 782 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:49,059 problem there's technical problems they 783 00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:50,710 could not verify the firm dragging 784 00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:53,830 effect at all Montaigne there basically 785 00:30:58,110 --> 00:30:56,260 is in Austria at the National Research 786 00:31:00,810 --> 00:30:58,120 Center's it's now the asterisk to the 787 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:00,820 technology the trees he was looking at 788 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:04,690 rotating ways putting him in a cryogenic 789 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:06,990 Dewar are that could hear him and 790 00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:09,730 putting the ring on a haven a motivator 791 00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:11,830 and spinning them up a few hundred rpm 792 00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:14,980 and basically he put accelerometers out 793 00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:17,080 of armies and I began seeing an unusual 794 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:17,500 force 795 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,950 he began mopping the fearsome measuring 796 00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:23,200 and discovered a what looked like that 797 00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:24,940 we had a magnetic effect something 798 00:31:28,830 --> 00:31:26,740 similar till they understand the fact 799 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:28,840 that with a very hard gravitational 800 00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,049 coupling constant like about probably 18 801 00:31:35,789 --> 00:31:34,000 meters or maybe ten or twelve orders of 802 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:35,799 magnitude larger than general seventy 803 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:38,410 would protect but it was rather high so 804 00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:39,970 he developed a theory thinking that 805 00:31:44,669 --> 00:31:41,980 possibly the superconducting states of 806 00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:44,679 the letters in this liquid helium we're 807 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:46,870 covering with gravitational field 808 00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:49,809 somehow and create an anomalous constant 809 00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:52,780 value are very our firm driving force on 810 00:31:58,049 --> 00:31:55,870 the outside of the system as turning on 811 00:32:00,539 --> 00:31:58,059 he keeps our here enacted with our group 812 00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:00,549 and he gave him a lot of input and he 813 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:02,440 took that input to redesign experiment 814 00:32:06,539 --> 00:32:04,450 two or three times to measure he 815 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:06,549 graduated away from accelerometers and 816 00:32:11,610 --> 00:32:08,890 into laser journals he even obtained the 817 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,620 laser gyros from about a used on Soviet 818 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:13,360 based of missiles which were highly 819 00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:15,970 sensitive he reproduced the effect 820 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:17,950 either the coupling constant got smaller 821 00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:20,110 and then he finally got to the point to 822 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:23,919 where he had to take the waves off who 823 00:32:28,409 --> 00:32:25,710 can measure the fact just with the 824 00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:28,419 holder then he took behave it off and I 825 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:30,100 was measured with some effect which is 826 00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:32,169 to helium so the thing is 827 00:32:36,989 --> 00:32:35,320 it's a bust he's still getting bad are 828 00:32:39,659 --> 00:32:36,999 still measuring the force but there's no 829 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:39,669 Thea to explain it we have to spit this 830 00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:41,470 this is jordyn closed chapter in a bit 831 00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:43,480 looking at the quantum vacuum zero point 832 00:32:47,159 --> 00:32:45,100 energies and the dynamical Casimir 833 00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,169 effect you take the Casimir cavity but 834 00:32:51,239 --> 00:32:49,840 you also have unbounded in the cavity 835 00:32:54,779 --> 00:32:51,249 and there is a net force that's 836 00:32:57,090 --> 00:32:54,789 generated in keeping with F equals MA 837 00:32:58,649 --> 00:32:57,100 and the third law and you could push 838 00:33:02,369 --> 00:32:58,659 against the vacuum fluctuations you 839 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:02,379 generate a really really thrust and it 840 00:33:07,229 --> 00:33:04,570 is not quite measurably that I think 841 00:33:08,669 --> 00:33:07,239 we're just on the verge of possibly 842 00:33:10,139 --> 00:33:08,679 designing it explained to actually 843 00:33:13,889 --> 00:33:10,149 measuring us in the near future 844 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:13,899 they are the thrust equations when it 845 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:15,970 design of fusion the robotics are has 846 00:33:21,690 --> 00:33:19,289 been White team Glenn Research Center in 847 00:33:23,249 --> 00:33:21,700 including looked at the possibility of 848 00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:23,259 whether solid fusion could be a power 849 00:33:29,609 --> 00:33:27,279 source it's it's not a it's not an 850 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:29,619 open-and-shut case yet sign of fusion 851 00:33:35,849 --> 00:33:32,529 does exist and it does produce power but 852 00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:35,859 it's basically on the chemical acoustic 853 00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:38,169 system and it is not going to be any 854 00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:41,409 breakthrough power at all it's not at 855 00:33:44,489 --> 00:33:42,940 the very kind of energy to lead to a 856 00:33:46,919 --> 00:33:44,499 breakthrough that we could that we could 857 00:33:49,259 --> 00:33:46,929 depend on our curiosities as you guys 858 00:33:51,239 --> 00:33:49,269 may have heard by now are voyagers and 859 00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:51,249 pioneers as well as other spacecraft 860 00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:53,460 that have been for the last few years 861 00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:58,200 have been theory an additional sunsetted 862 00:34:04,049 --> 00:34:01,600 attractive force on them and if there's 863 00:34:05,729 --> 00:34:04,059 been at least anybody so basically 864 00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:05,739 there's a real force of gravity acting 865 00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,200 the systematic analysis of all these 866 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:10,720 forces measured by all the different 867 00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:13,990 spacecraft are showing a demonstrable 868 00:34:19,649 --> 00:34:16,750 force that's consistent is repeatable it 869 00:34:20,819 --> 00:34:19,659 has the same elements however we don't 870 00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:20,829 know what the source of it is and so 871 00:34:25,049 --> 00:34:21,790 people are looking at alternative 872 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:25,059 theories of gravity I think that more 873 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:29,310 curiosities involving dark energy 874 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:34,050 the big bang on there are the things 875 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:37,170 that can these things will tell us these 876 00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:38,810 things may tell us something about 877 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:42,360 space-time and vacuum energy that might 878 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:45,090 lead us to explore some names that could 879 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:49,830 ghosts and very propulsion here's what 880 00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:51,390 the mysteries of physics would look like 881 00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:55,080 as we covered them in our book and we 882 00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:56,310 all interconnected to all these 883 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:01,280 different concepts and last max 884 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:04,590 particular challenge was as a man as a 885 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:07,530 NASA probe banana tree he was tasked 886 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:09,510 with having to beat down the skeptical 887 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,580 academics and there are incredible 888 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:13,920 scientists and visionaries who are all 889 00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:16,050 the people who publish in peer review 890 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:18,390 for out-of-the-box thinkers be able to 891 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:20,370 come forward get some support to be able 892 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:22,260 study some of these interesting problems 893 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:24,930 so we looked at what whether they what 894 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:26,330 are the features that we want in a 895 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,890 visionary per year we want to combine 896 00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:30,720 vision of credibility to consider the 897 00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:33,150 possibilities research rigorously and 898 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:35,640 impartially a judge others River and 899 00:35:39,590 --> 00:35:37,590 impartiality but not the feasibility 900 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:39,600 that's one important characteristics 901 00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:42,090 you've got to have you want to do small 902 00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:43,830 increments of progress if a little bit 903 00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:45,390 less provocative so you know still 904 00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:47,460 controversy emphasis on physical 905 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:49,100 observables and use appropriate 906 00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:52,730 comparisons with energy for example in 907 00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:55,590 space-time propulsion the key driver is 908 00:35:59,900 --> 00:35:57,780 rocket efficiency or potential efficacy 909 00:36:01,610 --> 00:35:59,910 is measured by the specific impulse you 910 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:01,620 cannot use specific impulse for world 911 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:04,050 drives or where events or applying 912 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:06,330 vacuum thrusts because it has no unit in 913 00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:07,890 those genres but the specific impulse 914 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,750 comes out of the rocket equation which 915 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:11,760 is Newtonian physics so you've gotta 916 00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:14,130 talk in terms of energy and then secant 917 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:16,080 apply qualified critiques by building in 918 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:18,210 also peer reviewers who are interested 919 00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:21,660 in willing to to examine these things 920 00:36:28,210 --> 00:36:26,040 look at the river and judge the their 921 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,220 effectiveness and whatnot 922 00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:30,720 my concluding remarks I understand a 923 00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:32,310 fault requires discoveries in physics 924 00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:33,710 rather than just technological 925 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:35,910 refinements physics has advanced 926 00:36:39,590 --> 00:36:37,410 sufficiently beware 927 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,600 research based our breakthroughs has 928 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:42,000 begun and it's been in progress since 929 00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:43,680 the mid-1990s 930 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:45,420 even if desired breakthroughs are 931 00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:47,820 impossible at least the path of this 932 00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:49,380 study proves our provides novel 933 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:51,270 approaches scientific investigations to 934 00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:53,370 continue looking into those curiosities 935 00:36:57,230 --> 00:36:55,470 of nature and the cosmos like dark 936 00:36:59,300 --> 00:36:57,240 energy dark matter and there's an 937 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,310 ominous forces acting on our spacecraft 938 00:37:03,110 --> 00:37:01,440 but are far outside the solar system 939 00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:03,120 and that the breakthroughs are formed 940 00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:04,560 space flight and much more will be 941 00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:17,540 revolutionized thank you very much and 942 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:27,870 we do have time for questions ok tell me 943 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:31,130 what his question was ok 944 00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:34,740 Bobby good idea to use the microphone is 945 00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:36,180 there any thought using the known 946 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:38,670 properties of UFOs as a guide to your 947 00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,250 thinking and or such I'm still having 948 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:43,200 trouble hearing what's going on the 949 00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:48,930 question is is there any asking ok is 950 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:51,990 there any application or wisdom to be 951 00:37:58,940 --> 00:37:54,390 taken from UFO research that might help 952 00:38:03,500 --> 00:37:58,950 you or the answer is yes enero secretly 953 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:03,510 also an overtly no because they the 954 00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:05,610 mainstream academic still about the 955 00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:07,980 topic of UFOs are you really having 956 00:38:11,330 --> 00:38:09,540 credibility with them especially with 957 00:38:12,830 --> 00:38:11,340 policymakers and decision makers in 958 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:12,840 charge of funding and programmatics 959 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:15,120 better than here the topic of UFOs so 960 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:16,770 for the purpose of doing this officially 961 00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:19,200 without billionaire phones but we did 962 00:38:25,050 --> 00:38:22,870 consider it under the table and yes 963 00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:25,060 there is a subset of us we've looked at 964 00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:27,220 UFO data and we've looked at all the 965 00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:30,150 physical events and physical 966 00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:31,900 descriptions that were provided by 967 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:33,960 investigators from shark Valley to 968 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:37,510 yourself and and whatnot and George 969 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:39,370 Hathaway and so forth and we've been 970 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:41,770 able to use that data as input to give 971 00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:45,550 us an idea and that data does drive the 972 00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:47,860 concepts that we did derive later on 973 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:49,240 that we were the brought the millions of 974 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:50,800 the original NASA program white whale 975 00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:53,260 drives and wormholes for example at the 976 00:38:57,390 --> 00:38:55,960 lives Utah launched that all right would 977 00:39:01,080 --> 00:38:57,400 used to work for Bob bivolo for six 978 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:01,090 years we have the experience of a 979 00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:04,450 scientist and the investigator seeing a 980 00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:06,910 window that look like a rainbow open up 981 00:39:10,830 --> 00:39:08,500 with the creature crawling through and 982 00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:10,840 then the potential use that I actually 983 00:39:14,970 --> 00:39:13,270 see eliminating the sky in broad 984 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:14,980 daylight with the travel of thought that 985 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:16,630 came through it well that's an example 986 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:18,610 of data about indicators around there 987 00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:22,750 involved I mean our geometry tells you 988 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:24,700 that a man who looks like we intersect 989 00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:27,010 surf space it appears as a very bright 990 00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:29,470 intense intensity by way of light and 991 00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:31,720 then as it was an intersection that's 992 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:34,180 larger larger then it opens up indicated 993 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:36,010 through the hole and things will be 994 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:37,570 billion out of it so that's a detail 995 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:39,910 appear to datasets that we've verified 996 00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:42,430 that the day of Utah range that matched 997 00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:44,680 well I know as a physicist or burglar 998 00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,030 would do what was we haven't seen UFOs 999 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,520 do performances that adhere to the world 1000 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:54,160 web because the web driver basically 1001 00:39:58,270 --> 00:39:55,990 it's just between stars that we don't 1002 00:40:00,670 --> 00:39:58,280 see EF is more beware 1003 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:00,680 we see them doing related materials and 1004 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:03,430 proclamations they disappear reappear 1005 00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:07,910 that's that's that one is undeterred yet 1006 00:40:14,050 --> 00:40:09,950 III would think the Ravens be 1007 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:14,060 possibility still prepared effective 1008 00:40:18,190 --> 00:40:16,250 anything else and I think they're anti 1009 00:40:20,260 --> 00:40:18,200 gravity we have anti-gravity and 1010 00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:20,270 Einstein's true theory but although it's 1011 00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:22,070 overdue and I talked about in my chopper 1012 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,980 you both in my three chapters there are 1013 00:40:29,350 --> 00:40:27,680 other aspects of anti-gravity the 1014 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:29,360 properties of negative ocular energy 1015 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:31,370 that will create a repressive force that 1016 00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:33,770 allows simply levitated up and he refers 1017 00:40:39,310 --> 00:40:36,320 to exhibit that so there's an how could 1018 00:40:40,990 --> 00:40:39,320 a scale as my vacuum model it's a 1019 00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:41,000 different fate of relativity where 1020 00:40:44,530 --> 00:40:43,340 instead of the space-time univision a 1021 00:40:47,350 --> 00:40:44,540 spacetime 1022 00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:47,360 as a paralyzed by vacuum of the 2008 1023 00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:50,150 fluctuations and if you observe a field 1024 00:40:56,110 --> 00:40:53,420 on that medium the fluctuations are 1025 00:40:59,050 --> 00:40:56,120 polarized that creates a spacetime been 1026 00:41:01,420 --> 00:40:59,060 in effect 72 will grab you one holes and 1027 00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,430 we say we see that we surround aspects 1028 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:03,200 of what he put in cherry can take one or 1029 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:16,660 I hate to continue the fear potent topic 1030 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:19,730 of UFOs but I'm driven to ask if you 1031 00:41:27,580 --> 00:41:24,290 know the name Bob Lazar about what the 1032 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:27,590 name Bob Lazar you don't know that name 1033 00:41:33,130 --> 00:41:30,050 he claims to have worked in the area 51 1034 00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:33,140 and to have worked with captured UFOs 1035 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:35,660 and to have investigated the physics of 1036 00:41:41,950 --> 00:41:39,050 propulsion and he states that I believe 1037 00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:41,960 element 113 which is as-yet-undiscovered 1038 00:41:45,799 --> 00:41:45,470 on earth is an island of stability and 1039 00:41:49,219 --> 00:41:45,809 other 1040 00:41:51,729 --> 00:41:49,229 as unstable regions of nuclei and that 1041 00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:51,739 in element 113 the strong nuclear force 1042 00:41:56,779 --> 00:41:54,329 extends slightly behind the nucleus and 1043 00:41:58,609 --> 00:41:56,789 aliens have discovered a way to amplify 1044 00:42:03,009 --> 00:41:58,619 that force and use it to create 1045 00:42:04,779 --> 00:42:03,019 artificial wormholes for transport so I 1046 00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:04,789 know I'm sorry 1047 00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:08,579 this is hard to do shortly but that that 1048 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:11,160 is one Avenue I think the wormhole idea 1049 00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:12,930 is the solution to this problem and that 1050 00:42:19,099 --> 00:42:16,920 is one bit of forbidden knowledge that 1051 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:19,109 you might use in the future okay thank 1052 00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:19,410 you 1053 00:42:28,209 --> 00:42:23,670 question about the legitimate the end of 1054 00:42:30,739 --> 00:42:28,219 the table really have to be brief 1055 00:42:33,469 --> 00:42:30,749 how many of sky Nelson and my question 1056 00:42:35,749 --> 00:42:33,479 is you mentioned retroactive causation 1057 00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:35,759 as a means of communicating into the 1058 00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:38,689 past can you elaborate on how that would 1059 00:42:43,999 --> 00:42:42,839 impact space travel so how a retroactive 1060 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:44,009 communication into the past could 1061 00:42:46,459 --> 00:42:45,569 actually influence space travel is there 1062 00:42:48,859 --> 00:42:46,469 some connection there that you were 1063 00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:48,869 making which part of being able to 1064 00:42:54,259 --> 00:42:52,319 operate how retroactive communication 1065 00:42:55,759 --> 00:42:54,269 where you just transfer your vision back 1066 00:42:57,439 --> 00:42:55,769 and forth you're just transferring 1067 00:42:59,150 --> 00:42:57,449 information does that actually I know 1068 00:43:01,669 --> 00:42:59,160 really well now and where there's a 1069 00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:01,679 thought that doesn't apply the space 1070 00:43:05,749 --> 00:43:03,390 travel that we don't know we've all 1071 00:43:06,979 --> 00:43:05,759 personally don't think so FTL 1072 00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:06,989 communications it's just going to need 1073 00:43:13,489 --> 00:43:10,999 FTL communications I don't think that I 1074 00:43:14,779 --> 00:43:13,499 put that on the side probably because he 1075 00:43:16,819 --> 00:43:14,789 won't believe that question will be to 1076 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:16,829 be addressed and why well join 1077 00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,170 creaminess research is specifically for 1078 00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:21,359 a communication system and it doesn't 1079 00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:22,920 have any application for space travel